On Thursday morning, Latto sat down with “The Breakfast Club” and said the quiet part out loud: yes, “Gimme Dat,” a track off her fourth and self-described final studio album “Big Mama,” is about Cardi B. But what emerged over the course of the interview wasn’t a rap beef victory lap. It was something more complicated: the anatomy of a friendship that curdled in real time, while one of the women involved was pregnant.
The song contains the lyric: “B***h said what? Let’s clock it / Really got a Hermes store in my closet / Talkin’ ’bout buyin’ big mama a bag like my n***a ain’t already bought it.” Fans had immediately decoded it. Now Latto has confirmed their read.
The backstory begins in September 2025, days before the fallout that would change everything. Latto had just rushed to the studio to contribute a verse to the “ErrTime” remix in service of Cardi’s first-week sales push for her sophomore album, “Am I the Drama?” all while in the early stages of pregnancy.
“I was at an early stage in my pregnancy, and I rushed to the studio to do this [‘ErrTime’ remix] verse for her, in time for the first week sales,” Latto explained on Thursday. “Literally two days later, I’m seeing all over the internet, I’m being called ‘p***y.'”
That description refers to a leaked audio recording that surfaced on September 30, 2025, shared widely by DJ Akademiks. In the clip, a voice understood to be Cardi’s could be heard in what appeared to be a phone call with Ice Spice’s manager, James Rosemond Jr. The voice threatened Ice Spice and producer RIOTUSA before declaring: “Y’all think I’m f**king p***y a** Latto?”
The framing matters: what stung Latto wasn’t just the insult, it was the context. She had just done something for Cardi. She was pregnant. And the person calling her name was someone she considered a genuine friend, not just a colleague.
“I’m pregnant, emotions high…and it’s someone I deada** looked at as a friend. Like, I understand this industry shirt first, too. But we was on a texting basis. So I feel like, ‘Yeah, you tweeted to the world, but we got each other number,'” Latto said.
Later on September 30, Cardi addressed the leak on X, writing: “I was ranting and hot at the moment but I f**k with Latto HEAVY!! I respect everything about her including her team thats so sweet.. AND NOPE! I’m not too prideful to apologize to somebody I really respect so this my public apology and now ima privately buy her a bag.”
It was that bag offer, Cardi’s attempt at a public-then-private peace gesture, that Latto turned into a lyric. The “Gimme Dat” verse about a Hermès closet and her partner already buying her gifts was her answer to being offered material compensation for a wound that felt personal.
“I’m open to the conversation,” Latto said Thursday. “When? I don’t know cuz I got a baby now, life done kept moving. The people [are] just now hearing that song but like I made that song when that was a topic in my life. It wasn’t no diss, that’s just what was happening in my life. Like, you talking about buying Big Mama a bag? I don’t need no damn bag.”
Jess Hilarious pressed the point: “And not to make up for calling me ‘p***y’ either.” Latto agreed: “Yeah. Especially in exchange for that. Like, I don’t know. It just left a bad taste in my mouth. I was in the booth and that’s just what was happening.”
Latto confirmed Thursday that Cardi did eventually reach out privately, but the timing was off.
“She did text me, but by that time I’m like, ‘I’m not even thinking about that.'” According to Latto, the text arrived roughly two months after the incident. She hasn’t spoken to Cardi since the “ErrTime” remix dropped.
That gap, two months of silence, a wave of online noise, and the physical and emotional weight of an early pregnancy, is what turned a rant into a rupture. The song on “Big Mama” is the document of that rupture, written in real time.
What makes this moment notable is the depth of what’s been strained. Latto and Cardi built a genuine working relationship over five years. Latto made a cameo in the “WAP” music video in 2020 and had long and publicly vocalized her admiration for Cardi. “Put It On Da Floor Again,” their first official collaboration, debuted at No. 13 on the Billboard Hot 100 in June 2023, becoming Cardi’s 20th top-20 hit and Latto’s second. The track was later certified double platinum by the RIAA.
The “ErrTime” remix in late 2025 appeared to extend that goodwill, right up until the leak erased it. The call is believed to date to around July 2024, a period when Latto and Ice Spice were themselves in the middle of a public dispute, one they would later settle with their collaborative track “Gyatt,” released just days before the Cardi leak dropped. Latto had just squashed one beef. She walked into another without knowing it was coming.
There is no formal feud. Neither artist has declared one. Cardi congratulated Latto on her pregnancy via Instagram in March. Whether she was invited to the baby shower, attended by Usher, Angel Reese, and Sexyy Red, is unknown.
What Latto’s “Breakfast Club” interview makes clear is that the wound is less about the words and more about what they revealed: that someone she texted, admired, and went out of her way to support during a vulnerable moment had, at some earlier point, used her name as a synonym for weakness.
Latto says she’s open to reconciliation. But she’s offered similar openness before, on an October 2025 episode of Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen, she was asked about patching things up with Nicki Minaj and replied: “I’m open to rekindling with anybody.” The door stays open. Whether Cardi walks through it is the remaining question.
“Big Mama” is out now on RCA/Streamcut Records. Latto has described it as her final album, though she clarified at its release: “I wouldn’t say I’m retiring today.”
